[Excom] [ccnso-council] CENTR Board letter to ICANN

Tue Jun 21 08:16:42 EAT 2022

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If ok, Barrack can provide us a draft through what has been shared by
Angela and Alex.
Best regards.

Le mar. 21 juin 2022 à 07:44, RAFT RAZAFINDRAKOTO <rnraft at gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Hi ExCOM Members, Barrack,
> Do we consider ourselves to be unresponsive if we first wait for ICANN's
> response to the CENTR Board on the clarifications requested?
> Regards,
>
> *RAFT*
>
>
>
>
> Le lun. 20 juin 2022 à 13:48, Angela Matlapeng <matlapeng at bocra.org.bw> a
> écrit :
>
>> Good morning EXCOM,
>>
>>
>>
>> It wouldn’t  harm to back CENTR’s response but I believe this was EU
>> specific and since CENTR has addressed it, it shouldn’t be worrisome if we
>> do not write as AfTLD.
>>
>>
>>
>> Warm Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Ms. Angela Matlapeng
>>
>> Cybersecurity Unit | CIRT Analyst
>>
>> www.bocra.org.bw / www.cirt.org.bw
>>
>> l:+2673685500
>>
>> c:+26773048349
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Barrack Otieno <barrack at aftld.org>
>> *Date: *Monday, 20 June 2022 at 08:13
>> *To: *Alex Corenthin <alex.corenthin at nic.sn>
>> *Cc: *Angela Matlapeng <matlapeng at bocra.org.bw>, AfTLD Excom <
>> excom at aftld.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Excom] [ccnso-council] CENTR Board letter to ICANN
>>
>> Dear Dr. Alex,
>>
>> Many thanks for your email. I wonder if other EXCOM members think it
>> will be a good idea to write to ICANN the way CENTR did?
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> On 2022-06-15 13:13, Alex Corenthin wrote:
>> > +1 angela ..
>> > Your Contribution is very relevant and in line with the situation of
>> > registries and the role that cctlds should play in Africa …The
>> > confusion between ccTLD and GTLD’s
>> >
>> > I have made a french translation, and i believe it can be a common
>> > statement from @AfTLD
>> >
>> > == FR ===
>> >
>> > Cher Barrack, merci pour ces informations.
>> >
>> > Je ne pense pas que les ccTLD feraient bien d'être gouvernés comme
>> > les gTLD et imposer des politiques nationales n'est pas idéal.
>> > Encouragez plutôt les gouvernements à reconnaître les ccTLD dans
>> > leurs politiques nationales, et même à subventionner et à soutenir
>> > la gestion des ccTLD. Pour les gouvernements dotés de lois sur la
>> > protection des données qui ont des obligations en matière
>> > d'exactitude des données, le commissaire DPA concerné doit
>> > travailler avec les registres et être encouragé à adopter des
>> > moyens d'assurer l'exactitude des données du titulaire.
>> >
>> > Ce avec quoi je semble être d'accord à propos du NIST2, c'est que
>> > les pays devraient déclarer/reconnaître les ccTLD en tant
>> > qu'infrastructures critiques. Dans mon pays, par exemple, tout ce qui
>> > est considéré comme une infrastructure nationale d'information
>> > critique est traité en priorité, notamment en assurant la
>> > continuité, la stabilité et la sécurité de cette infrastructure.
>> > Le rôle de l'unité de cybersécurité comprend la lutte contre la
>> > cybercriminalité perpétrée via le DNS ou sur le DNS.
>> >
>> > Ce modèle n'est pas le seul à contourner. Les ccTLD peuvent
>> > collaborer avec les CIRT nationaux sans avoir recours à des mesures
>> > d'application strictes et à une supervision rigoureuse. Dans notre
>> > cas où il n'y a pas de loi sur la cybersécurité, la sensibilisation
>> > à la cybersécurité a donné plus de résultats en obligeant les
>> > organisations détenant des informations critiques à se conformer. De
>> > plus, nous avons été en mesure de lutter contre la cybercriminalité
>> > grâce à des politiques ccTLD qui reconnaissent également
>> > l'utilisation abusive du DNS sous la forme d'abus de contenu ainsi que
>> > les infractions à la propriété intellectuelle qui ne relèvent
>> > actuellement pas de la compétence de l'ICANN.
>> >
>> > Dans l'état actuel des choses, les actes liés à la
>> > cybercriminalité et à l'informatique, les actes de criminalité
>> > financière et d'autres actes mentionnant la cybercriminalité
>> > élaborés par les États membres comportent déjà des sanctions et
>> > avoir des sanctions supplémentaires pour moi serait contre-productif
>> > ; La collaboration et la coopération sont essentielles pour atteindre
>> > la cyber-résilience et, le cas échéant, l'harmonisation pourrait
>> > également aider, et pour y parvenir, les responsables de la
>> > cybersécurité doivent sensibiliser toutes les parties prenantes
>> > concernées à l'importance de disposer de capacités de
>> > cybersécurité, et non d'imposer.
>> >
>> > Ms. Angela Matlapeng (.BW)
>> >
>> > Alex Corenthin
>> >
>> > Responsable Technique NIC Sénégal (www.nicsenegal.sn [10])
>> > Centre Universitaire de Recherche et de Formation aux technologies de
>> > l’Internet (www.curi.sn [11])
>> > Université Cheikh Anta Diop de Dakar (www.ucad.sn [12])
>> > BP 16370 Dakar-Fann (Senegal)
>> > Tel : +221 338219190 / 776317776
>> >
>> >> Le 14 juin 2022 à 08:17, Angela Matlapeng <matlapeng at bocra.org.bw>
>> >> a écrit :
>> >>
>> >> Dear Barrack, thank you for this information.
>> >>
>> >> I do not think ccTLDs would do good being governed like gTLDs and
>> >> imposing national policies is not ideal. Rather encourage
>> >> Governments to recognize ccTLDs in their National policies, and even
>> >> subsidise and support the running of ccTLDs. For those Governments
>> >> with Data Protection Acts which have data accuracy obligations, the
>> >> relevant DPA Commissioner needs to work with Registries and
>> >> encouraged to adopt ways of ensuring accuracy of Registrant data.
>> >>
>> >> What I seem to agree with about the NIST2 is that countries should
>> >> declare/recognize ccTLDs as Critical Infrastructure. In my country
>> >> for instance, anything deemed as National Critical Information
>> >> Infrastructure is treated with priority including ensuring its
>> >> continuity, stability, and security of that infrastructure. The
>> >> cybersecurity unit’s role includes dealing with cybercrime
>> >> perpetuated through the DNS or on the DNS.
>> >>
>> >> This model isn’t the only work around. ccTLDs can collaborate with
>> >> National CIRTs without using strict enforcements and stringent
>> >> supervision. In our case where there is absence of a Cybersecurity
>> >> Law, cybersecurity awareness has yielded more results in having
>> >> organizations with critical information comply. Additionally, we
>> >> have been able to deal with cybercrime through ccTLD policies that
>> >> also recognize DNS Abuse in the form of content abuse as well as IP
>> >> infringements which are currently not ICANN’s remit.
>> >>
>> >> As it is, cybercrime and computer related acts, financial crime
>> >> acts, and other acts that mention cybercrime developed by Member
>> >> states already have penalties and to have additional sanctions for
>> >> me, would be counterproductive; Collaboration and cooperation key to
>> >> achieving cyber resilience, and where need-be, harmonization could
>> >> help as well, and to achieve this, those in charge of cybersecurity
>> >> need to make all relevant stakeholders aware of the importance of
>> >> having cybersecurity capabilities, not impose.
>> >>
>> >> Warm Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Ms. Angela Matlapeng
>> >>
>> >> From: EXCOM <excom-bounces at aftld.org> on behalf of barrack at aftld.org
>> >> <barrack at aftld.org>
>> >> Date: Thursday, 09 June 2022 at 10:49
>> >> To: excom at aftld.org <excom at aftld.org>
>> >> Subject: [Excom] Fwd: Re: [ccnso-council] CENTR Board letter to
>> >> ICANN
>> >> Dear EXCOM,
>> >>
>> >> What are your thoughts on this matter?
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original Message --------
>> >> Subject: Re: [ccnso-council] CENTR Board letter to ICANN
>> >> Date: 2022-06-08 15:02
>> >> From: Peter Van Roste via Ccnso-council <ccnso-council at icann.org>
>> >> To: Nick Wenban-Smith <Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk>,
>> >> "ccNSO-Council at icann.org" <ccnso-council at icann.org>
>> >> Reply-To: Peter Van Roste <peter at centr.org>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Nick,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for forwarding.
>> >>
>> >> Luckily, this seems to be a EU specific issue.
>> >>
>> >> However, if there is an interest, I'd be happy to summarise at the
>> >> next
>> >> call or answer any individual questions people may have in the
>> >> meantime.
>> >>
>> >> Hope to see many of you in The Hague!
>> >>
>> >> Peter
>> >>
>> >> Van: Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces at icann.org> Namens Nick
>> >> Wenban-Smith via Ccnso-council
>> >> Verzonden: dinsdag 7 juni 2022 18:30
>> >> Aan: ccNSO-Council at icann.org
>> >> Onderwerp: [ccnso-council] FW: CENTR Board letter to ICANN
>> >>
>> >> FYI, is this something that could be discussed under AOB at council
>> >> next
>> >> week perhaps?
>> >>
>> >> From: fm-request at centrlists.org <fm-request at centrlists.org> On
>> >> Behalf Of
>> >> Peter Van Roste
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 11:58 AM
>> >> To: fm at centrlists.org
>> >> Cc: leaders at centrlists.org
>> >> Subject: [centr-fm] CENTR Board letter to ICANN
>> >>
>> >> Hi Everyone,
>> >>
>> >> As mentioned in a previous email, a Member had signalled that ICANN
>> >> had
>> >> reached out to European governments in the context of the NIS2
>> >> negotiations.
>> >>
>> >> In that exchange, ICANN suggested that governments apply
>> >> internationally
>> >> approved policies and procedures on their national ccTLD.
>> >>
>> >> If successful, this outreach would result in ccTLDs having to abide
>> >> by
>> >> rules developed for gTLDs.
>> >>
>> >> Feedback from Members indicated that this was indeed not a
>> >> stand-alone
>> >> case.
>> >>
>> >> Wording I've seen, included indeed the encouragement for governments
>> >> to
>> >> establish internationally agreed policies regarding registrant data
>> >> for
>> >> ccTLDs.
>> >>
>> >> As many expressed during the Jamboree, this is worrisome and we need
>> >> to
>> >> fully understand the scope of this effort by ICANN.
>> >>
>> >> As a follow-up, the CENTR Board has sent a letter to the ICANN CEO
>> >> to
>> >> highlight this issue and request some clarifications.
>> >>
>> >> Full letter is attached, here are the clarifications requested:
>> >>
>> >> * How many European governments were approached in the context of
>> >> this
>> >> outreach?
>> >> * On what grounds did ICANN suggest that governments should consider
>> >> imposing regulation on ccTLDs?
>> >> * How was this particular suggested amendment developed and what
>> >> consultation process was followed?
>> >> * On what basis does ICANN believe this specific message and related
>> >> proactive outreach to governments is within its mandate?
>> >> * Why did ICANN decide to advise governments on how to govern their
>> >> national ccTLDs without consulting the ccTLD community?
>> >>
>> >> Most importantly, the Board asks ICANN to discuss how this issue can
>> >> be
>> >> avoided in the future and insists on synchronisation with the
>> >> relevant
>> >> ccTLD should there ever be a need for ICANN to discuss ccTLD
>> >> regulations
>> >> with a government.
>> >>
>> >> I will keep you posted of any follow-up.
>> >>
>> >> Best Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Peter
>> >>
>> >> Peter Van Roste
>> >>
>> >> General Manager
>> >>
>> >> CENTR - Belliardstraat 20, 1040 Brussels, Belgium
>> >>
>> >> tel +32 2 627 55 50 - direct +32 2 627 55 51
>> >>
>> >> www.centr.org [1] [1] - Twitter [2] - Facebook [3] - LinkedIn [4] -
>> >> Skype:
>> >> pvanroste
>> >>
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