[Excom] [ccnso-council] CENTR Board letter to ICANN

Tue Jun 21 09:42:15 EAT 2022

Hi ExCOM Members, Barrack,
Do we consider ourselves to be unresponsive if we first wait for ICANN's
response to the CENTR Board on the clarifications requested?
Regards,

*RAFT*

Le lun. 20 juin 2022 à 13:48, Angela Matlapeng <matlapeng at bocra.org.bw> a
écrit :

> Good morning EXCOM,
>
>
>
> It wouldn’t  harm to back CENTR’s response but I believe this was EU
> specific and since CENTR has addressed it, it shouldn’t be worrisome if we
> do not write as AfTLD.
>
>
>
> Warm Regards,
>
>
>
> Ms. Angela Matlapeng
>
> Cybersecurity Unit | CIRT Analyst
>
> www.bocra.org.bw / www.cirt.org.bw
>
> l:+2673685500
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> c:+26773048349
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>
>
> *From: *Barrack Otieno <barrack at aftld.org>
> *Date: *Monday, 20 June 2022 at 08:13
> *To: *Alex Corenthin <alex.corenthin at nic.sn>
> *Cc: *Angela Matlapeng <matlapeng at bocra.org.bw>, AfTLD Excom <
> excom at aftld.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Excom] [ccnso-council] CENTR Board letter to ICANN
>
> Dear Dr. Alex,
>
> Many thanks for your email. I wonder if other EXCOM members think it
> will be a good idea to write to ICANN the way CENTR did?
>
> Best Regards
>
> On 2022-06-15 13:13, Alex Corenthin wrote:
> > +1 angela ..
> > Your Contribution is very relevant and in line with the situation of
> > registries and the role that cctlds should play in Africa …The
> > confusion between ccTLD and GTLD’s
> >
> > I have made a french translation, and i believe it can be a common
> > statement from @AfTLD
> >
> > == FR ===
> >
> > Cher Barrack, merci pour ces informations.
> >
> > Je ne pense pas que les ccTLD feraient bien d'être gouvernés comme
> > les gTLD et imposer des politiques nationales n'est pas idéal.
> > Encouragez plutôt les gouvernements à reconnaître les ccTLD dans
> > leurs politiques nationales, et même à subventionner et à soutenir
> > la gestion des ccTLD. Pour les gouvernements dotés de lois sur la
> > protection des données qui ont des obligations en matière
> > d'exactitude des données, le commissaire DPA concerné doit
> > travailler avec les registres et être encouragé à adopter des
> > moyens d'assurer l'exactitude des données du titulaire.
> >
> > Ce avec quoi je semble être d'accord à propos du NIST2, c'est que
> > les pays devraient déclarer/reconnaître les ccTLD en tant
> > qu'infrastructures critiques. Dans mon pays, par exemple, tout ce qui
> > est considéré comme une infrastructure nationale d'information
> > critique est traité en priorité, notamment en assurant la
> > continuité, la stabilité et la sécurité de cette infrastructure.
> > Le rôle de l'unité de cybersécurité comprend la lutte contre la
> > cybercriminalité perpétrée via le DNS ou sur le DNS.
> >
> > Ce modèle n'est pas le seul à contourner. Les ccTLD peuvent
> > collaborer avec les CIRT nationaux sans avoir recours à des mesures
> > d'application strictes et à une supervision rigoureuse. Dans notre
> > cas où il n'y a pas de loi sur la cybersécurité, la sensibilisation
> > à la cybersécurité a donné plus de résultats en obligeant les
> > organisations détenant des informations critiques à se conformer. De
> > plus, nous avons été en mesure de lutter contre la cybercriminalité
> > grâce à des politiques ccTLD qui reconnaissent également
> > l'utilisation abusive du DNS sous la forme d'abus de contenu ainsi que
> > les infractions à la propriété intellectuelle qui ne relèvent
> > actuellement pas de la compétence de l'ICANN.
> >
> > Dans l'état actuel des choses, les actes liés à la
> > cybercriminalité et à l'informatique, les actes de criminalité
> > financière et d'autres actes mentionnant la cybercriminalité
> > élaborés par les États membres comportent déjà des sanctions et
> > avoir des sanctions supplémentaires pour moi serait contre-productif
> > ; La collaboration et la coopération sont essentielles pour atteindre
> > la cyber-résilience et, le cas échéant, l'harmonisation pourrait
> > également aider, et pour y parvenir, les responsables de la
> > cybersécurité doivent sensibiliser toutes les parties prenantes
> > concernées à l'importance de disposer de capacités de
> > cybersécurité, et non d'imposer.
> >
> > Ms. Angela Matlapeng (.BW)
> >
> > Alex Corenthin
> >
> > Responsable Technique NIC Sénégal (www.nicsenegal.sn [10])
> > Centre Universitaire de Recherche et de Formation aux technologies de
> > l’Internet (www.curi.sn [11])
> > Université Cheikh Anta Diop de Dakar (www.ucad.sn [12])
> > BP 16370 Dakar-Fann (Senegal)
> > Tel : +221 338219190 / 776317776
> >
> >> Le 14 juin 2022 à 08:17, Angela Matlapeng <matlapeng at bocra.org.bw>
> >> a écrit :
> >>
> >> Dear Barrack, thank you for this information.
> >>
> >> I do not think ccTLDs would do good being governed like gTLDs and
> >> imposing national policies is not ideal. Rather encourage
> >> Governments to recognize ccTLDs in their National policies, and even
> >> subsidise and support the running of ccTLDs. For those Governments
> >> with Data Protection Acts which have data accuracy obligations, the
> >> relevant DPA Commissioner needs to work with Registries and
> >> encouraged to adopt ways of ensuring accuracy of Registrant data.
> >>
> >> What I seem to agree with about the NIST2 is that countries should
> >> declare/recognize ccTLDs as Critical Infrastructure. In my country
> >> for instance, anything deemed as National Critical Information
> >> Infrastructure is treated with priority including ensuring its
> >> continuity, stability, and security of that infrastructure. The
> >> cybersecurity unit’s role includes dealing with cybercrime
> >> perpetuated through the DNS or on the DNS.
> >>
> >> This model isn’t the only work around. ccTLDs can collaborate with
> >> National CIRTs without using strict enforcements and stringent
> >> supervision. In our case where there is absence of a Cybersecurity
> >> Law, cybersecurity awareness has yielded more results in having
> >> organizations with critical information comply. Additionally, we
> >> have been able to deal with cybercrime through ccTLD policies that
> >> also recognize DNS Abuse in the form of content abuse as well as IP
> >> infringements which are currently not ICANN’s remit.
> >>
> >> As it is, cybercrime and computer related acts, financial crime
> >> acts, and other acts that mention cybercrime developed by Member
> >> states already have penalties and to have additional sanctions for
> >> me, would be counterproductive; Collaboration and cooperation key to
> >> achieving cyber resilience, and where need-be, harmonization could
> >> help as well, and to achieve this, those in charge of cybersecurity
> >> need to make all relevant stakeholders aware of the importance of
> >> having cybersecurity capabilities, not impose.
> >>
> >> Warm Regards,
> >>
> >> Ms. Angela Matlapeng
> >>
> >> From: EXCOM <excom-bounces at aftld.org> on behalf of barrack at aftld.org
> >> <barrack at aftld.org>
> >> Date: Thursday, 09 June 2022 at 10:49
> >> To: excom at aftld.org <excom at aftld.org>
> >> Subject: [Excom] Fwd: Re: [ccnso-council] CENTR Board letter to
> >> ICANN
> >> Dear EXCOM,
> >>
> >> What are your thoughts on this matter?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: Re: [ccnso-council] CENTR Board letter to ICANN
> >> Date: 2022-06-08 15:02
> >> From: Peter Van Roste via Ccnso-council <ccnso-council at icann.org>
> >> To: Nick Wenban-Smith <Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk>,
> >> "ccNSO-Council at icann.org" <ccnso-council at icann.org>
> >> Reply-To: Peter Van Roste <peter at centr.org>
> >>
> >> Hi Nick,
> >>
> >> Thanks for forwarding.
> >>
> >> Luckily, this seems to be a EU specific issue.
> >>
> >> However, if there is an interest, I'd be happy to summarise at the
> >> next
> >> call or answer any individual questions people may have in the
> >> meantime.
> >>
> >> Hope to see many of you in The Hague!
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> Van: Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces at icann.org> Namens Nick
> >> Wenban-Smith via Ccnso-council
> >> Verzonden: dinsdag 7 juni 2022 18:30
> >> Aan: ccNSO-Council at icann.org
> >> Onderwerp: [ccnso-council] FW: CENTR Board letter to ICANN
> >>
> >> FYI, is this something that could be discussed under AOB at council
> >> next
> >> week perhaps?
> >>
> >> From: fm-request at centrlists.org <fm-request at centrlists.org> On
> >> Behalf Of
> >> Peter Van Roste
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 11:58 AM
> >> To: fm at centrlists.org
> >> Cc: leaders at centrlists.org
> >> Subject: [centr-fm] CENTR Board letter to ICANN
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >> As mentioned in a previous email, a Member had signalled that ICANN
> >> had
> >> reached out to European governments in the context of the NIS2
> >> negotiations.
> >>
> >> In that exchange, ICANN suggested that governments apply
> >> internationally
> >> approved policies and procedures on their national ccTLD.
> >>
> >> If successful, this outreach would result in ccTLDs having to abide
> >> by
> >> rules developed for gTLDs.
> >>
> >> Feedback from Members indicated that this was indeed not a
> >> stand-alone
> >> case.
> >>
> >> Wording I've seen, included indeed the encouragement for governments
> >> to
> >> establish internationally agreed policies regarding registrant data
> >> for
> >> ccTLDs.
> >>
> >> As many expressed during the Jamboree, this is worrisome and we need
> >> to
> >> fully understand the scope of this effort by ICANN.
> >>
> >> As a follow-up, the CENTR Board has sent a letter to the ICANN CEO
> >> to
> >> highlight this issue and request some clarifications.
> >>
> >> Full letter is attached, here are the clarifications requested:
> >>
> >> * How many European governments were approached in the context of
> >> this
> >> outreach?
> >> * On what grounds did ICANN suggest that governments should consider
> >> imposing regulation on ccTLDs?
> >> * How was this particular suggested amendment developed and what
> >> consultation process was followed?
> >> * On what basis does ICANN believe this specific message and related
> >> proactive outreach to governments is within its mandate?
> >> * Why did ICANN decide to advise governments on how to govern their
> >> national ccTLDs without consulting the ccTLD community?
> >>
> >> Most importantly, the Board asks ICANN to discuss how this issue can
> >> be
> >> avoided in the future and insists on synchronisation with the
> >> relevant
> >> ccTLD should there ever be a need for ICANN to discuss ccTLD
> >> regulations
> >> with a government.
> >>
> >> I will keep you posted of any follow-up.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> Peter Van Roste
> >>
> >> General Manager
> >>
> >> CENTR - Belliardstraat 20, 1040 Brussels, Belgium
> >>
> >> tel +32 2 627 55 50 - direct +32 2 627 55 51
> >>
> >> www.centr.org [1] [1] - Twitter [2] - Facebook [3] - LinkedIn [4] -
> >> Skype:
> >> pvanroste
> >>
> >> Links:
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> >> [1]
> >>
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